tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34346296.post2503389259646189489..comments2023-12-25T23:40:17.701-05:00Comments on Confessions of a Carioca: If the shoe fits...Daniel Martinshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15980949721733826978noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34346296.post-29015306164095612102008-04-22T09:40:00.000-04:002008-04-22T09:40:00.000-04:00To be fair, I thought Tom was just wondering if ot...To be fair, I thought Tom was just wondering if other readers saw the same bad Amazon link that he does.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11250037631921167989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34346296.post-47372047614925645542008-04-21T09:23:00.000-04:002008-04-21T09:23:00.000-04:00RE: "I'm kind of wondering what others see."Well -...RE: "I'm kind of wondering what others see."<BR/><BR/>Well -- at first I thought that poor Tom Sramek must have just entered blogland and had not read anything from the reasserting side, which would explain why he's still -- four years later -- "wondering what others see". <BR/><BR/>Then I thought maybe it was just wishful thinking since I see that he's been in blogland since 2004, basically saying that we should all stop talking about the issues of sexuality since they don't matter and aren't really important enough.<BR/><BR/>Then I realized what I should have known from the beginning. Whenever clergy talk that way, it means that <I>their side won, and now they'd like everybody to sit down, be quiet, and send in that pledge!</I> ; > ) <BR/><BR/>Or . . . if they won't stop talking about it . . . [drum roll] to <I>please leave</I>.<BR/><BR/>So as usual -- all of that pretended innocence and confusion . . . the usual faux act, as this comment by Tom Sramek from 2007 handily illustrates.<BR/><BR/>"I disagree with you here, Christopher, and it appears Matthew does, too. I don't think that the Gospel is the tension, I think it causes tension because it mandates both prophetic witness and continuous engagement. We cannot simply tell our conservative brothers and sisters to go away, since Jesus would never have done so. We can, however, speak the truth of the love of Christ for the marginalized and, if folks don't like what we are saying, they can leave, just as Christ allowed folks to leave that didn't like what he had to say."<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>SarahAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34346296.post-57603459457507524612008-04-20T19:02:00.000-04:002008-04-20T19:02:00.000-04:00My only difficulty with that assertion is that I h...My only difficulty with that assertion is that I have partnered gay friends who are extremely orthodox regarding the Incarnation, Resurrection, Trinity, etc... They see nothing incompatible between their lives and those beliefs. I'm kind of wondering what others see.<BR/><BR/>P.S. The link is still there.Tom Sramek, Jr.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17891982131922786298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34346296.post-28441894632559266522008-04-19T16:05:00.000-04:002008-04-19T16:05:00.000-04:00Eech! No, I did not mean to link to that. I appare...Eech! No, I did not mean to link to that. I apparently imported the link from where I lifted the text, but it disappeared when I posted it in Blogger, so I thought it was gone. Thanks for pointing this out.<BR/><BR/>Obviously, Benedict believes that the currently controverted moral issues rise to the level of fundamental belief and practice. Or maybe just practice, at any rate. I tend to agree with him. Others do too. Therein lies a big part of our problem. (Which is to say, the Righter Court got it wrong.)Daniel Martinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15980949721733826978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34346296.post-70325220240741679222008-04-19T15:51:00.000-04:002008-04-19T15:51:00.000-04:00Dan: Did you really mean to link the words "fundam...Dan: Did you really mean to link the words "fundamental Christan" with the Amazon.com listing of the book "The Fundamentals of Extremism: The Christian Right in America"? That is what I got when I moved my cursor over the words.<BR/><BR/>The question is: What are "fundamental Christian beliefs and practices"? I would contend that the sexuality debate is not about such beliefs and practices and, in fact, actually obscures a large debate on core issues such as the Incarnation, the Resurrection, etc...Tom Sramek, Jr.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17891982131922786298noreply@blogger.com