tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34346296.post3396325941643130283..comments2023-12-25T23:40:17.701-05:00Comments on Confessions of a Carioca: Thoroughly Modern Ecclesiastical DisciplineDaniel Martinshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15980949721733826978noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34346296.post-67882016780799762592008-10-29T23:25:00.000-04:002008-10-29T23:25:00.000-04:00Seems to me, the problem with the Title IV canons ...Seems to me, the problem with the Title IV canons as currently written is not that they allow too much abuse that goes unprosecuted. Enforcement of the canons, even under the best of circumstances, is expensive, time-consuming, and debilitating to all persons involved, both diocesan structures and local congregation alike.<BR/><BR/>An organization in decline tends to look inwardly rather than outwardly. The organization, rather than focusing our attention on ways to grow our church, is spending its time and energy on these "administrative" solutions to spiritual problems.<BR/><BR/>Neal MichellCanon Nealhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04603366613712590504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34346296.post-30466194895456771532008-06-21T07:21:00.000-04:002008-06-21T07:21:00.000-04:00When you've been criticized for abuse of the Canon...When you've been criticized for abuse of the Canons, what you do of course is create Canons that can't possibly be abused because they allow you to do anything you want. It's all so basically simple, really...Craig Goodrichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07751837397879574986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34346296.post-23401860164505472632008-06-17T02:34:00.000-04:002008-06-17T02:34:00.000-04:00Yes, but are we surprised.....Yes, but are we surprised.....Stu Howehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11336558654189019436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34346296.post-78475336749474844052008-06-16T16:59:00.000-04:002008-06-16T16:59:00.000-04:00Absolute power. . . TEC will continue to crush any...Absolute power. . . TEC will continue to crush any and all oposition regardless of the cost. Bishop Katherine has already crossed over into Spielbergdom in her promise to begin deposition proceedings against Bishop Duncan in September because of his stated intent to remove his diocese from TEC at their convention in November.<BR/>While on the subject of legalgeek, Has anyone noted the inherent conflict of interest in Bishop Sauls' memorandum on the depositions of Schofield and Cox?Benhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07083132658791074507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34346296.post-66354203028317562272008-06-16T12:42:00.000-04:002008-06-16T12:42:00.000-04:00Just 1984,...and change.Just 1984,...and change.jmosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17788910071603270737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34346296.post-37238847767928428532008-06-16T11:36:00.000-04:002008-06-16T11:36:00.000-04:00Very interesting. What is really going on?Very interesting. What is really going on?us300https://www.blogger.com/profile/16395745491043404778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34346296.post-7534809326154946902008-06-16T11:34:00.000-04:002008-06-16T11:34:00.000-04:00We sat through a presentation of the proposed Titl...We sat through a presentation of the proposed Title IV revisions at the Province IV synod earlier this month, and I had a similar reaction to the vagueness of some of the language. Also, the process as described to us seemed absurdly complicated -- the presenter should've provided us with a flowchart.<BR/><BR/>I wish I had seen your analysis first, you raise some additional concerns that had escaped my notice.<BR/><BR/>One bishop, bless him, stood up at the mike and said grumpily,(paraphrasing) "This is the most rediculous thing I have ever seen."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34346296.post-28430976337031889782008-06-15T22:13:00.000-04:002008-06-15T22:13:00.000-04:00Thanks, Dan. I'm looking forward to a workshop on...Thanks, Dan. I'm looking forward to a workshop on the Title IV material at the NNECA Annual Conference next week. I think your concerns (and Tony's, above) are right on track.<BR/><BR/>Bruce RobisonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34346296.post-39530004165560753262008-06-15T08:07:00.000-04:002008-06-15T08:07:00.000-04:00Quite apart from the serious points noted above, w...Quite apart from the serious points noted above, what seems to be missing is a sense of proportion and a sense of humor. Reading portions of the proposed amendments aloud in the company of a few people who know how to laugh quickly demonstrates just how legally "geeky" so much of this is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com