tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34346296.post7908883824519285393..comments2023-12-25T23:40:17.701-05:00Comments on Confessions of a Carioca: Liturgy & EvangelismDaniel Martinshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15980949721733826978noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34346296.post-59650334465648797402007-06-13T12:16:00.000-04:002007-06-13T12:16:00.000-04:00Aaron, I appreciate your comments and you are cert...Aaron, I appreciate your comments and you are certainly not alone in your experience. I know of countless Christians who were brought up in a liturgical-sacramental church, attending every Sunday, but only "found Christ" in another (non-liturgical) church. It makes me scratch my head because it's so ironic. Obviously, the raw information that one would need to understand the availability and necessity of a personal relationship with Christ is blatantly present in the very words of the liturgy! Those (such as myself) who have had the opposite experience to yours--i.e. already having the "personal relationship" but feel like they discover the fullness of faith and practice in the liturgical-sacramental stream--can testify to this. I don't know that I will ever understand why this is!Daniel Martinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15980949721733826978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34346296.post-57781153924509377372007-06-12T20:59:00.000-04:002007-06-12T20:59:00.000-04:00I think I understand what you are saying0 but I sp...I think I understand what you are saying0 but I spent 16 years as a baptized, confimed Lutheran, and I had no idea whatever that I could have a personal connection to God. I kinda think this is not unusual. I prayed and I had sort of an idea that it all had something to do with Jesus on the cross, but that is as far as it went. It was not until I visited a friend's youth group that anyone ever told me that being a Christian was anything more than getting confirmed and going to church and going through the motions of the service. My life changed when I realized I needed to turn my whole life over the savior. I still have alot to learn but before I realized that I needed a savior, Jesus it was just words. My family went to the Lutherna church my whole life too till something happened and they got upset and they quit and didnt go back. They are now upset that I am going to a "weird" church but they do not know Jesus in my view and they make fun of me for caring about the things of God. Liturgy as evngelism, I'd say the exact opposite was true for me and my family.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34346296.post-52227906374994398842007-06-06T19:58:00.000-04:002007-06-06T19:58:00.000-04:00What a great post! I will never forget our looong...What a great post! I will never forget our looong conversation almost 10 years ago when I (in my Evangelistic innocence) asked you how you could "give up" being a Baptist. The time you took to explain to me about the "bunch of good stuff" you added while "losing nothing" is what cemented me in the church catholic and has over the past 10 years made me love the liturgy so very much. It will be on my "appreciation list" but your post was so moving that I had to tell you now too!Mousie and Christy's Mommyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00595517381476147580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34346296.post-82769632964812029132007-06-06T17:19:00.000-04:002007-06-06T17:19:00.000-04:00Wow indeed. This is wonderful! I love the liturg...Wow indeed. This is wonderful! I love the liturgy myself, and as a cradle Lutheran and former charismatic, I find the depths of spiritual experience there. But I think many people don't get it or find it boring simply because they haven't been evangelized or catechized to the depths of the tradition. So we develop other worship services as a short-cut, I think.<BR/><BR/>Also, in my (Lutheran) tradition there used to be room for the full liturgy and for the informal, faith-sharing experience (often on Sunday night). So some people dig contemporary worship simply because they are missing that aspect of faith. <BR/><BR/>There is so much to share... thanks for this post.Diane M. Rothhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07749136181846671327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34346296.post-67129880176594906722007-06-06T14:10:00.000-04:002007-06-06T14:10:00.000-04:00Amen, amen, amen. It gives me hope for Christ's ch...Amen, amen, amen. It gives me hope for Christ's church whenever one of its members can speak appreciatively about others in the family. I agree with Singing Owl that you are on target about the evangelism-formation divide between the free churches and the more sacramental/liturgical traditions. What I really wish is that we would all find the humility to actually learn from each other.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34346296.post-70141124866377070302007-06-06T11:30:00.000-04:002007-06-06T11:30:00.000-04:00Wow! This was a fascinating and insightful post. ...Wow! This was a fascinating and insightful post. I could go on and on about different parts of it, but (speaking as an Assemblies of God minister) I totally agree with the last paragraaph. Why, oh why, can't this happen? You are right, IMO, that the free church seems to do a better job of evangelism but a very poor job thereafter. Blessings to you.Dorcas (aka SingingOwl)https://www.blogger.com/profile/15626748280614018533noreply@blogger.com